Thread: Assassin’s Creed 3 – October 30th

Originally Posted by Strifehart

I honestly hope this one doesn't end with :

 

Desmond stating "I know what to do now" again.

Just end the series already ffs.

agreed

Meh...milking them teets.

Remember guys - this is all to tie in with the whole 21 December 2012 prophecy that was introduced in the first game. So they have this hectic kinda turnarounds on titles for that reason I would surmise. Are they milking it? Perhaps - I have yet to play Revelations though, but up to Brotherhood, AC is probably my favourite franchise in terms of consistency and quality this generation. And it's just a pure ton of fun when you get right down to it.

Originally Posted by Strifehart

At least the games are pretty high quality in all aspects. Could be worse, it could be Call of Duty.

I don't know hey, nothing wrong with the quality of Call of Duty.

But the comparison is pretty much on par, they both keep the game almost identical and just chop & change the location and some textures.

Originally Posted by EyeGod

Remember guys - this is all to tie in with the whole 21 December 2012 prophecy that was introduced in the first game. So they have this hectic kinda turnarounds on titles for that reason I would surmise. Are they milking it? Perhaps - I have yet to play Revelations though, but up to Brotherhood, AC is probably my favourite franchise in terms of consistency and quality this generation. And it's just a pure ton of fun when you get right down to it.

You can't really cock up the quality, if it remains pretty much exactly the same game.

Same reason why I said there's nothing wrong with Call of Duty's quality as such.

I really enjoyed the games as well, but still haven't gotten to Brotherhood because it's simply too much of the same thing, and unlike CoD it isn't a quick 5 hour romp to completion.

True, but in the total scope of things the story forms maybe 5% (at an absolute maximum) of the total development effort.

And besides, if its anything like what Eyegod alludes to, then they had the story nailed five years ago and have been purposely stretching it all this time.


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Originally Posted by SauRoN

True, but in the total scope of things the story forms maybe 5% (at an absolute maximum) of the total development effort.

And besides, if its anything like what Eyegod alludes to, then they had the story nailed five years ago and have been purposely stretching it all this time.


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They may have had the general plot lines nailed 5 years ago, ie: Desmond is Altair's descendant, as is Ezio, so we go from the Middle East to Europe, and then some. And then XXX is Ezio's descendant and we go into (hypothetical) the American Revolution for the grand climax.

But filling in the details - the script of each game, so to speak - that's ****in hard dude, and it takes a lotta time to script and direct all the mocap and performances. It definitely forms a much larger part than 5% of the dev cycle.

Originally Posted by Strifehart

I don't think you're really qualified to make statements like that.

Uhm, if anything I'm even more qualified because I write a whole lot more than you do.

Putting the plot together for a game isn't really all that much work compared to the development, that was my entire point.

So if you are really just changing the story, and "updating" the game should we really be paying full list price for all of these games?


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Originally Posted by EyeGod

They may have had the general plot lines nailed 5 years ago, ie: Desmond is Altair's descendant, as is Ezio, so we go from the Middle East to Europe, and then some. And then XXX is Ezio's descendant and we go into (hypothetical) the American Revolution for the grand climax.

But filling in the details - the script of each game, so to speak - that's ****in hard dude, and it takes a lotta time to script and direct all the mocap and performances. It definitely forms a much larger part than 5% of the dev cycle.

I was speaking strictly story, as in the script.

Motion capture and direction is a whole different ball game, and there I would have to agree with you.


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Originally Posted by Strifehart

My point is your comprehension of the factors involved in presenting the story to the user is perhaps a bit skewed.
It's not simply a case of replacing textures/models/voice acting/scripted events and viola you have a new game.

When looking at games that have the storyline tightly integrated with the actual gameplay, it is obvious that the amount of work involved is on a much greater scale that that of a fighting game's storyline.(Which is loosely integrated and almost transparent and irrelevant.)

Ahaha Saurons viewpoint from a non programmer. Just cut and paste and your game is ready to go. :P

Originally Posted by Strifehart

My point is your comprehension of the factors involved in presenting the story to the user is perhaps a bit skewed.
It's not simply a case of replacing textures/models/voice acting/scripted events and viola you have a new game.

When looking at games that have the storyline tightly integrated with the actual gameplay, it is obvious that the amount of work involved is on a much greater scale that that of a fighting game's storyline.(Which is loosely integrated and almost transparent and irrelevant.)

I most certainly agree that it's a lot more complex than I make it out to be.

But you would agree that it's a hell of a lot less work than building a brand new game from the ground up right?

It's the price vs timeline vs actual amount of work done factor that gets me revved up.

The core gameplay of the series has remained exactly the same since the very first, and considering that's 80% of your game time it's a case of them only needing to put really serious work into the other 20%.

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