Thread: Epic new Max Payne 3 Trailer

Max Payne 3 behind the scenes video shows impressive tech -Destructoid

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Oh my sweet Jesus this looks GOOOOD!!! I was totally gonna get this from the word go, but this last video has just officially bumped it up to most anticipated title of 2012...

Hrrm I am getting annoyed seems they are tacking on multiplayer it everything these days and most of the time it is more a miss than a hit....

Originally Posted by larch

Hrrm I am getting annoyed seems they are tacking on multiplayer it everything these days and most of the time it is more a miss than a hit....

Unless they get it right. Ala Mass Effect 3. And this is Rock* we're talking about here - GTA4 and RRD were pretty successful in the MP arena. And to be fair, Max Payne does kinda lend itself to awesome gunplay that should translate beautifully to MP.

Originally Posted by EyeGod

Unless they get it right. Ala Mass Effect 3. And this is Rock* we're talking about here - GTA4 and RRD were pretty successful in the MP arena. And to be fair, Max Payne does kinda lend itself to awesome gunplay that should translate beautifully to MP.

Well define successful, I mean how many people do you know who still play GTA4 and RRD multiplayer? These games main focus is the single player aspect and not the multiplayer. Once they release it they don't have constant updates and expansions for the multiplayer side of things because it isnt their main focus, if you compaire it with titles like COD and GOW.


I feel that they should focus more on the single player side of things and just drop the whole multiplayer aspect in games that dont really need it. Sure if it is a game like COD and GOW by all means. But if it is a story drivin game like RRD or GTA4 I would rather have an extra say 10 hours of gameplay and 3-4 big DLC updates. Rather use that resources you are wasting on the multiplayer to add to the single player, when I bought RRD I bought it for the single player and the multiplayer was not even in my mind. And having said that I only touched in once or twice.

Originally Posted by larch

Well define successful,

GTA IV 360 Metascore - 98% / User Score - 79% Grand Theft Auto IV for Xbox 360 Reviews, Ratings, Credits, and More at Metacritic
RRD 360 Metascore - 95% / User Score - 88% Red Dead Redemption for Xbox 360 Reviews, Ratings, Credits, and More at Metacritic

I'd define both titles, developed and published by Rock*, as commercial and critical successes by this token.

I mean how many people do you know who still play GTA4 and RRD multiplayer?

LIVE Activity for week of March 5

Xbox 360 Top LIVE Titles (based on UU’s)

01 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
02 Call of Duty: Black Ops
03 FIFA 12
04 Battlefield 3
05 Halo: Reach
06 Modern Warfare 2
07 Mass Effect 3
08 Skyrim
09 NBA 2K12
10 Gears of War 3
11 GTA IV

Xbox Live's Major Nelson » LIVE Activity for week of March 5 :

While this is not necessarily a reflection of MP activity, GTA IV - a game released almost four years ago - is still in the top 20 when it comes to Live activity. RRD, I'm sure, is in the top 30. I'm pretty confident a lot of people still play these titles MP.

These games main focus is the single player aspect and not the multiplayer.

Correct - that's why they boasted 30+ hour campaigns and scored such high review aggregates. The multiplayer, while not the main focus, did not at all detract from the overall quality of the product - it just added an extra element to an already winning formula.

Once they release it they don't have constant updates and expansions for the multiplayer side of things because it isnt their main focus, if you compaire it with titles like COD and GOW.

So, by that logic, games like COD and GOW should do away with SP altogether? Do you see the flawed nature of your argument here? And while I can't confirm that GTA IV had MP updates or DLC, RRD sure did:

New multiplayer modes, such as Stronghold mode, have been added in the Liars and Cheats pack.[15] The Undead Nightmare pack included two new games modes: Undead overrun mode, and Land grab. It also included eight new zombie characters, including a Zombie Marston and Zombie Ricketts.

Red Dead Redemption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, I don't know if you ever played the MP aspect of either title, but I did, and the only thing that hindered it was lag. I imagine that playing in the US or UK eliminates this factor, and even with this hinderance the MP modes were fun and added value to the overall product, especially the co-op modes.

I feel that they should focus more on the single player side of things and just drop the whole multiplayer aspect in games that dont really need it. Sure if it is a game like COD and GOW by all means. But if it is a story drivin game like RRD or GTA4 I would rather have an extra say 10 hours of gameplay and 3-4 big DLC updates.

So the COD and GOW titles are not story-driven? And it's hard to judge whether a game needs an aspect or not, from an end-user's perspective. It's a business, and if the business decisions demand a decent MP aspect, and the developers deliver, I don't see why it's a problem. I for one was perfectly happy with GTA IV and RRD's SP campaign lengths - the gameplay and stories were rich and nuanced - and if they were any longer they may have compromised on the perfect balance they struck between longevity and fun.

Rather use that resources you are wasting on the multiplayer to add to the single player, when I bought RRD I bought it for the single player and the multiplayer was not even in my mind. And having said that I only touched in once or twice.

So then you don't have to bother with MP3 MP. But I would like to check it out - especially after ME3's rather solid MP offering - cos times are changing, and devs know their fans would crucify them if they ****ed it up. And this is Rock* larch - one of the most established and critically acclaimed developers and publishers in the history of gaming - there's very little chance they'll **** it up.

I'm sorry to do this, but I think it quite a fitting closing response to your argument:

Originally Posted by larch

You white people with your white problems, you gamers are such a bunch of self entitled complainers :P

Indeed Mr. Pot, indeed.

Jesus dude sand in your mangina?

Oh, the irony is oh so sweet larch... SO SWEEEET!!!

Originally Posted by EyeGod

Oh, the irony is oh so sweet larch... SO SWEEEET!!!

Yeah, I saw the "Wall O Text" and was hit for double damage so I got through the first paragraph and ignored the rest tbh.

...sooooooo SWEEEET...

But just for you, the tl;dr version: GTA IV and RRD were commercial and critical successes despite their MP aspects, which weren't just tacked on cash-ins but fully developed modes that gamers enjoyed as much as they enjoyed the SP. They did in no way detract from either game's awesome SP campaign. Therefore, if these titles are anything to go by, MP3 MP should be pretty solid and fun.

At this stage this'll be the first day one purchase for me in months...

larch - case in point:

Dem system requirements for the PC: Max Payne 3 PC requirements announced | VG247 seems it will be "optimised" yet again for the PC just like GTA. :P