Thread: Official Skyrim map app now out on iOS

Well that makes bugger all sense. Skyrim is a PC game...not not a Mac game...so bringing it to an Apple device first is a bit retarded since you're less likely to own an iPhone/iOS device if you have a PC (before iOS 5 since you'd have had to deal with the iTunes lock-in otherwise known as hell).

It is a rather cool idea though.

Nevermind, I jumped the gun and forgot Bethesda also made consoles versions...most likely since I consider the console versions incomplete due to lack of ability to mod, in other words lack of ability to fix Bethesda's mistakes.

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Nevermind, I jumped the gun and forgot Bethesda also made consoles versions...most likely since I ridicule things due to my apparent misconceptions.

Fixed it for ya. No need to thank me.

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Well that makes bugger all sense. Skyrim is a PC game...not not a Mac game...so bringing it to an Apple device first is a bit retarded since you're less likely to own an iPhone/iOS device if you have a PC (before iOS 5 since you'd have had to deal with the iTunes lock-in otherwise known as hell).

It is a rather cool idea though.

Uhm...189 MILLION (April 2011) is hardly a retarded market to develop your Apps for.

The more and more you post, the more you appear an absolute wanker to me.

I'm a console fanboy all the way, but your utterly ignorant PC-bias is just astounding.

I'd rather question the validity of a Map app for Skyrim...considering there is one in the game already.

For that matter why would FNB have an iOS App? Surely all those people have PC's at home?

****ing retard.

Skyrim in-game map is shit though, to be fair. Can't zoom in closely enough, hence me wandering around for HOURS looking for a single friggin location obscured by mountains passes and the like.

Originally Posted by SauRoN

For that matter why would FNB have an iOS App? Surely all those people have PC's at home?

****ing retard.

That's not how I had originally meant it. What I meant was that the people playing on PC (I honestly forgot for a second that there were console versions, I wasn't trying to be biased, just blond apparently and thus assumed those would be the only Skyrim players) are unlikely to have iOS devices since they don't talk nice with their PCs and are more likely to have Android or even WP7.

That example you gave is different since in it one can get everything done on one device and doesn't use competing almost incompatible devices at the same time for the same task.

Perhaps to illustrate my erroneous point better let's say there was a Mac exclusive game but a helper app for it came out on Android...would that make any sense to you?

Originally Posted by EyeGod

Skyrim in-game map is shit though, to be fair. Can't zoom in closely enough, hence me wandering around for HOURS looking for a single friggin location obscured by mountains passes and the like.

Assassins Creed, now Ubisoft knows how to make maps.

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

That's not how I had originally meant it. What I meant was that the people playing on PC (I honestly forgot for a second that there were console versions, I wasn't trying to be biased, just blond apparently and thus assumed those would be the only Skyrim players) are unlikely to have iOS devices since they don't talk nice with their PCs and are more likely to have Android or even WP7.


That example you gave is different since in it one can get everything done on one device and doesn't use competing almost incompatible devices at the same time for the same task.

Perhaps to illustrate my erroneous point better let's say there was a Mac exclusive game but a helper app for it came out on Android...would that make any sense to you?

Dude are you pulling all of these "more likely" scenarios out of your ass?

Have you ever even used an iPad? Where does this "does not talk nice to PC" nonsense come from? An iOS device doesn't talk to a PC any better or worse than it talks to a Mac or whatever logic you have.

Do all people with Android phones have Chromebooks? No, they have Mac, PC's and Linux machines....possibly no PC at all.


If anything this App is targeted SPECIFICALLY at people with PC's, since the entire concept is that you have the map open on ANOTHER device...not the one you are playing on.

If there's a Mac exclusive game it would make perfect sense to make an "accessory" App available on the most popular "other" peripheral.

Originally Posted by SauRoN

Have you ever even used an iPad? Where does this "does not talk nice to PC" nonsense come from? An iOS device doesn't talk to a PC any better or worse than it talks to a Mac or whatever logic you have.

iTunes (before iOS5), if I need to explain any more than that then you've never used it on a Windows comp.

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

iTunes (before iOS5), if I need to explain any more than that then you've never used it on a Windows comp.

Used it on a Windows computer for more than a year, never had a problem.

And that was long before iOS5.


How much of this "does not like to talk to my PC" did you experience for yourself? And how much of it did you simply hearsay from other people?

And did you hate iTunes before you even tried it with an iPad/iPhone?

Yea, bit of a silly argument going on here.

They made a Skyrim app for a TABLET/MOBILE device. Usually it's iOS first because that is where the money is , Android tends to lag with that. Quite obviously this has nothing to do with whether you play Skyrim on PC or Console. Only people that don't have tablets won't understand why this is pretty useful.

I am actually quite surprised by the ignorance of people that decided that tablets are just a fad . Also the anti apple bias isn't going to help, if this was an Android app what would the excuse then be? Mind you, you don't really need iTunes on your PC to work with your ipad anyway. I only use iTunes for syncing my music to an ipod, i haven't plugged my ipad into my pc since i got it.

Anyway, back to the app, it's a 100MB download (another 1GB if you download everything) and not so free....you have to buy the cool extra location stuff inside the app at $1 a pop (so don't be fooled by the free app, you only get the basic maps for free) .

There's been a ton other Skyrim apps in the appstore before this one with various guides , i suppose this is the first official one and thus more publicity. Overall, i like it if companies do this, i just wish they could do it sooner (as in when the game release).

Originally Posted by SauRoN

How much of this "does not like to talk to my PC" did you experience for yourself?

Most of it.

And did you hate iTunes before you even tried it with an iPad/iPhone?

Still haven't tried with either of those but using it with my sister's iPod was hell to such a degree that I never want to try again regardless of whether it's improved or not.
It's seriously the slowest and at the same time one of the hungriest pieces of software I've ever encountered. For some unknown reason it ripped all the music as m4a and there was no way to change it, rather than the much more common MP3. Can't remember exactly what it was now but it only dealt with mov video files as far as I remember. It automatically sorts stuff but doesn't actually have a clue where it belongs and so you end up with Beethoven under Rock and Pop. And then it's not consistent and puts the next symphony under Jazz. I couldn't find any settings to configure anything the way I wanted, it just did stuff by itself or couldn't do it at all. Did I mention it was slow and resource hungry? And I don't like Quicktime which iTunes forces/forced you to install. I'd much rather use Quicktime Alternative included in the K-lite Mega Codec Pack. And did I mention iTunes was ssslllllooooooooowwwwwwww?

If I owned an iPhone or iPad I would honestly rather transfer stuff by retyping all the data on the phone and reproducing the file that way even in binary code if necessary than ever use iTunes again, it left that much of an impression on me. Usually I'd just right it off as crap and looking for something else but noooo before iOS5 iTunes was the only way for a PC and an Apple device could talk to each other and thus I plain hate it.

O yeah and there was a bug/glitch where removing/connecting an iPod to Vista and newer running (and I see reports online of Win7 as well) computer would bring up a BSOD/crash it. Thankfully the family comp was using XP still but it was banned for life from my Vista system when I saw that was a possibility.

Originally Posted by diabolus

Anyway, back to the app, it's a 100MB download (another 1GB if you download everything) and not so free....you have to buy the cool extra location stuff inside the app at $1 a pop (so don't be fooled by the free app, you only get the basic maps for free) .

There's been a ton other Skyrim apps in the appstore before this one with various guides , i suppose this is the first official one and thus more publicity. Overall, i like it if companies do this, i just wish they could do it sooner (as in when the game release).

Now this I have a problem with. A decent quality map which allows you to mark things, save locations and point out areas of interest should not be an extra in a game such as Skyrim. This I would very much consider a core feature and not one you should try and profit from. Publishers are just finding more ways to get you to buy extra content that should have been included in the game for free.

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Most of it.


Still haven't tried with either of those but using it with my sister's iPod was hell to such a degree that I never want to try again regardless of whether it's improved or not.
It's seriously the slowest and at the same time one of the hungriest pieces of software I've ever encountered. For some unknown reason it ripped all the music as m4a and there was no way to change it, rather than the much more common MP3. Can't remember exactly what it was now but it only dealt with mov video files as far as I remember. It automatically sorts stuff but doesn't actually have a clue where it belongs and so you end up with Beethoven under Rock and Pop. And then it's not consistent and puts the next symphony under Jazz. I couldn't find any settings to configure anything the way I wanted, it just did stuff by itself or couldn't do it at all. Did I mention it was slow and resource hungry? And I don't like Quicktime which iTunes forces/forced you to install. I'd much rather use Quicktime Alternative included in the K-lite Mega Codec Pack. And did I mention iTunes was ssslllllooooooooowwwwwwww
If I owned an iPhone or iPad I would honestly rather transfer stuff by retyping all the data on the phone and reproducing the file that way even in binary code if necessary than ever use iTunes again, it left that much of an impression on me. Usually I'd just right it off as crap and looking for something else but noooo before iOS5 iTunes was the only way for a PC and an Apple device could talk to each other and thus I plain hate it.

O yeah and there was a bug/glitch where removing/connecting an iPod to Vista and newer running (and I see reports online of Win7 as well) computer would bring up a BSOD/crash it. Thankfully the family comp was using XP still but it was banned for life from my Vista system when I saw that was a possibility.

Well of that's your view, then the iPad (or any other iOS device) is as incompatible with a Mac as it is with Windows, because it's iTunes everywhere.

Granted iTunes is somewhat more integrated with OSX, much like Windows Media Player is with Windows, and yes it's slightly more more hungry on Windows.

MP4 is by far a better quality standard than MP3, and is therefore the default file format for both audio and video use on iTunes. It's also the format in which ITunes sells music.

BUT, had you bothered long enough to actually use the program you would find it's quite easy to change to AIFF, Apple Lossless, WAV or MP3 codecs under Import Settings.

Also never had a problem with iTunes library management, in fact that's the main reason I got over my own bias which was brought about by everyone else's screwed opinions, because it managed my music folders very nicely, once you get over the fact of trying to manage the physical folder yourself, and instead use iTunes to manage your stuff.

But in the year that I had my iPad connected to Windows I only ever needed to plug it into iTunes when I did updates. The rest of the time I was pretty much untethered.


Considering iOS5 only came out very recently, that means all of those 189 million people in April 2011 were using this "horrible does not talk to my PC" product.

Or all those people with iPods before them, the best selling music player in the world...wonder how they could ever have lived with this product for so long and bought a number of revisions of it was oh so terrible.


Sorry dude, but you are very much the vocal minority here.

As a device manager, iTunes is the best software I've yet seen compared to the horrendous efforts by Nokia, Sony Ericsson and Blackberry I've had to deal with before.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Hey Schumi, what's the biggest company in the world?